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@ Alex your are so right about Wikileaks. The only reason Obama may be a one term president is because of his Race point blank !

I dont agree with everything Obama has done but these White folks not all but majority of them will vote against thier best intrest than to see a Black man try to get America back on track. They are too scared he is only going to do for Black Americans.


Hell you still have people asking for a birth certificate and think he is Muslim !

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@Alexis Stodghill

Obama corruption:

Bribery of senate candidates (a felony):

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2010/jun/obama-tried-bribing-another-senate-candidate


Obama fraud regarding birth details, social security number, and selective service card:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/the-mystery-of-barack-obama-continues/

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"Justice" -- are you serious about these links? These are both obviously subjective conservative blogs. An objective source would be:

1) The Wall Street Journal
2) The Economist
3) The New York Times
4) The Washington Post
5) The LA Times

etc.

Also, please stop with the birth certificate thing. This automatically makes you look crazy. As you clearly have access to Google, you can find any number of stories proving that Obama is actually a US citizen. I have seen a picture of his birth certificate with the raised seal through the magic power of the Internet.

Did you that Sen. McCain was not even born in the U.S.? How about that! In fact, both presidential candidates ironically had births that could have been seen as a means of being disqualified, except that Obama was born in Hawaii to an American mother. I wonder why the conservatives didn't seek to disqualify McCain who is not even a natural born U.S. citizen by actually documented fact?

I am really concerned that you read these blogs that are intent on spreading misinformation. I think opinion is great, but conservative blogs have been proven recently (Shirley Sherrod anyone) to be sources of horribly distorted facts intended to stir anger against Obama at all costs. These sites will create a false world view in the mind of voters that is dangerous. This is far from just having an opinion.

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@Alexis Stodghill

You definitely HAVE NOT seen a picture of Obama's ORIGINAL LONG FORM birth certificate with delivering doctor signature and witness signatures. All you have seen is a laser printed SHORT FORM which Hawaii provides to anyone in Hawaii who asks for it. The short form only proves that the parents asked for a declaration of birth from Hawaii. That proves he was born and maybe when, not where.

Surely you are not so ignorant that you don't know the difference between long and short form birth certificates?

Obama has spent over a million in legal fees simply to keep from producing a long form birth certificate, something I must produce even to just get a passport let alone be qualified to be president.

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Alexis,
I must say that none of these fake people really know anything as to what is considered to be a natural born ciziten. For if they could read the US consititution sect 2 they would see what it takes.

Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps. The Constitution authorizes the Congress to do create clarifying legislation in Section 5 of the 14th Amendment; the Constitution, in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, also allows the Congress to create law regarding naturalization, which includes citizenship.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in the gaps left by the Constitution. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

•Anyone born inside the United States *
•Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
•Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
•Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
•Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
•Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
•A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.
* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.

Separate sections handle territories that the United States has acquired over time, such as Puerto Rico (8 USC 1402), Alaska (8 USC 1404), Hawaii (8 USC 1405), the U.S. Virgin Islands (8 USC 1406), and Guam (8 USC 1407). Each of these sections confer citizenship on persons living in these territories as of a certain date, and usually confer natural-born status on persons born in those territories after that date. For example, for Puerto Rico, all persons born in Puerto Rico between April 11, 1899, and January 12, 1941, are automatically conferred citizenship as of the date the law was signed by the President (June 27, 1952). Additionally, all persons born in Puerto Rico on or after January 13, 1941, are natural-born citizens of the United States. Note that because of when the law was passed, for some, the natural-born status was retroactive.

The law contains one other section of historical note, concerning the Panama Canal Zone and the nation of Panama. In 8 USC 1403, the law states that anyone born in the Canal Zone or in Panama itself, on or after February 26, 1904, to a mother and/or father who is a United States citizen, was "declared" to be a United States citizen. Note that the terms "natural-born" or "citizen at birth" are missing from this section.

In 2008, when Arizona Senator John McCain ran for president on the Republican ticket, some theorized that because McCain was born in the Canal Zone, he was not actually qualified to be president. However, it should be noted that section 1403 was written to apply to a small group of people to whom section 1401 did not apply. McCain is a natural-born citizen under 8 USC 1401(c): "a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person." Not everyone agrees that this section includes McCain — but absent a court ruling either way, we must presume citizenship.


There if they really were educated then they would actually do their reseacher but since they do know how to use their mind thus I will provide the website for them to see:

http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html

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"Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)"

HELLO!

So even for "birthers," by your own definitions (if they are correct, you usually have to triple check what conservatives say these days), President Obama would be eligible anyway.

Did you even read this? Or are you trying to suggest that his own mother was also not a natural born citizen who has lived there most of her life when she met Obama's father in college?

This is exactly why people like you kill me. I admit that I did not know ALL of the information you posted. I brought up the McCain complication, because he has complications, just like Obama.

BUT you just proved that BOTH their complications allowed them to run for president, given even the lies the birthers are trying to tell about the presidents birth.

So even by your own admission, with Obama's father being an alien and his mother a full citizen, even IF he was not born in America (which he was) he could run.

You are making this too easy!

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@Alexis Stodghill

You didn't address that Obama has never released his ORIGINAL LONG FORM birth certificate (all you've seen is a short form printed by laser printer in 2008).

Also, the previous poster proved NOTHING. He is ignorant of the difference between "citizen" and "natural born citizen". A natural born citizen requires BOTH parents to have been US citizens, as well as birth of the subject in the US. The latter is in doubt and the former is defintitely not the case for Obama.

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