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The case of an Ohio mother who served a ten day jail term has sparked an intense debate about education, and race and fairness. Williams-Bolar was convicted of falsifying records, so that her two daughters could attend classes in a better-performing school district in suburban Akron. Authorities say her actions amount to theft. Host Michel Martin speaks with Williams-Bolar and her lawyer David Singleton about the case and its implications.
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MICHEL MARTIN, host:
I'm Michel Martin and this is TELL ME MORE from NPR News.
The Grammys are a few days off. We'll preview that celebration of the music industry later in the program.
But first, we have a conversation with a woman whose 10-day jail sentence has sparked an intense debate about education and race and fairness in this country. Kelley Williams-Bolar is the mother of two. She is a teacher's aide and studying to become a teacher. She served nine days of a 10-day jail sentence because school and law enforcement authorities say her children don't really live with their grandfather in the high-achieving Copley-Fairlawn school district where they were registered.
The authorities say they actually live in Akron, next door and that Kelley Williams-Bolar's actions amount to theft of about $6,900 per child per year. Her case has spawned intense feelings about her and about the way she was treated. Now, last week we heard from the superintendent of the Copley-Fairlawn school district who defended the decision to prosecute Kelley Bolar-Williams. We were not able to speak with her then. But she's with us now. Thank you so much for joining us.
Ms. KELLEY WILLIAMS-BOLAR (Teachers Aide): Thanks for having me.
MARTIN: I should also mention that we have her attorney, David Singleton, on the line with us as well. Thank you for joining us.
Mr. DAVID SINGLETON (Attorney): Hi, Michel. Thank you.
MARTIN: So Kelley, first, if I may ask, how are you?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: I'm doing fairly well. You know, I have my moments. I have a lot of anxiety. I just have it hard sometimes, you know, thinking about, you know, the whole aspect of it.
MARTIN: I wanted to go back over what happened, to the degree that you can talk about it, and then Mr. Singleton can jump in if he feels it necessary. There are different reports about why you decided to send the girls to that particular school. By one account your home had been burglarized and you were worried about their safety. By another account, you just felt that you wanted them to live with your father.
Can you tell us why you initially enrolled them in the Copley-Fairlawn district?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: What happened was, in 2006 my home had been burglarized. Actually, that morning my daughter wasn't feeling so well, but I'm glad that she went on to school. But whoever this was, he just destroyed my home. It was just it was a hard time for me. I was in school. I was trying to, you know, I had objectives, I had goals to meet. I was trying to finish college so I can be productive with my girls. So that fall, you know, I had enrolled the girls in the Copley-Fairlawn city schools in '06. And, you know, that's how everything had got started.
MARTIN: Well, the school officials and then, of course, the prosecutors say that they actually live with you. What is your understanding of this? Is it your understanding that they lived with their grandfather, your father, during the week and that they live with you on the weekends? What is your argument?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: First of all, my dad's home is - that's my family home. And my dad always told me that his home, you know, is my home. And that's how, you know, that's - I've always, it's my daddy's house. I've always, always been like that.
MARTIN: But to the specific legal question of where your children reside, what is your - what's your answer?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: They reside with me.
MARTIN: Well, to that point though, the argument that the school district is making is that if they live with you and if you live in Akron, that they're not eligible to go to that school. So what's your answer?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: I enrolled them. We got the grandparent power of attorney.
MARTIN: So your argument is he has power of attorney so therefore in essence he's a co-parent.
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: (Unintelligible) power of attorney. Yes.
MARTIN: In essence you're saying he's a co-parent.
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: He has grandparent power of attorney. Grandparent power of attorney, it doesn't say that they're co-parents. It says that they're the grandparent - grandparent power of attorney. That's just what it is.
MARTIN: David, can I bring you in here?
Mr. SINGLETON: Absolutely.
MARTIN: And ask you, what is your understanding of this here? Because when we talked to the school officials at Copley-Fairlawn, their argument was that this is very clear, that in essence the children reside with her and therefore they're not eligible to live in that district. So what is the grandparent power of attorney and what is the relevance here?
Mr. SINGLETON: Well, first of all, I think what Kelley was saying, that her daughters reside with her now. They definitely reside with her now, because the two daughters are not staying with grandfather anymore and they're not attending the Copley-Fairlawn school district anymore. When this initially became an issue, my understanding is that the children were staying some of the time with their grandfather and there'd be some nights when they would stay back in Akron.
But when this first got raised as an issue from the school district's standpoint, one of the things that they said that she could do is get a grandparent power of attorney. She did that. She thought the issue was resolved and it turned out it wasn't.
MARTIN: ... So let me go back to the superintendent, Brian Poe. We talked to him last week. This is what he had to say about your case. Here it is.
(Soundbite of archived recording)
Mr. BRIAN POE (Superintendent, Copley-Fairlawn School District): We worked on this case from 2006 to 2008. I had numerous contacts and sent information to the family, had a residency hearing with the family. And really, where this came to light was when the parent filed a grandparent affidavit in juvenile court. Juvenile court ruled that that affidavit was void and said specifically that the children resided outside of our district, in Akron.
So acting on that court ruling, we took a look at that and the parent at that point still contended that the residence was in Copley with her father. And so after looking at some conflicting documents, we had some concerns over that and decided to turn that information over to the prosecutor's office.
MARTIN: So David, the legal question I would have for you is, why was that affidavit void? Do you know? What is your understanding?
Mr. SINGLETON: The reason why it was void was the biological father had not signed off on it. And that's my understanding of why the court voided it. And bear in mind, I was not involved in the case at that standpoint. But reading the court documents, that's what voided it.
MARTIN: So Kelley Williams-Bolar, can I ask you, why - does your former husband object to your daughters staying with your grandfather during the week?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: No, no. My ex-husband, he really didn't have a say. I had full custody of my girls.
MARTIN: Do you feel that you were trying to mislead the Copley-Fairlawn school district? Because when I asked them about whether they felt that the way you were treated was appropriate, you know, the issue that came up was - well, two - they're saying one is that there's a service that you weren't eligible for or that you could've paid for but didn't. So their argument, one, is you could've paid tuition, or two, that in essence they're saying that you misled them about what they think is the truth. So what do you say to that?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: Well, first, I want to also mention, with the grandparent power of attorney, it was denied in June, that the girls had less than a week left of school when the judge looked back at it in June of 2008. So just to let you know that.
Mr. SINGLETON: And Michel, I think the reason she pointed that out is because then she pulled her daughters out of Copley-Fairlawn school district, and then there wasn't an indictment until November of 2009.
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: Right. Eighteen months later.
MARTIN: OK. So what you're saying is that they were already out of that school district at the time that you were indicted.
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: Yes. They were long gone.
MARTIN: So tell me again though - do you feel that you were misleading them? Did you feel that there was an intent to mislead the Copley-Fairlawn district about where your children really resided?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: No, no. There was no intent, no.
MARTIN: Do you feel that you were honest?
Ms. WILLIAMS-BOLAR: Yes.
Please read the rest of the transcript in which Kelley Williams-Bolar, jailed Ohio mom, defends her decision on NPR.

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By: Greg on 2/11/2011 2:56PM
She may have felt that she was honest, but it's clear that she wasn't! The school district tried to work with, and resolve this situation with her for "two years" , but this woman continued to stick to her lie about the issue of residency. As, a result the school district as was in the article conducted a hearing with the family in Juvenile Court. Read below:
We worked on this case from 2006 to 2008. I had numerous contacts and sent information to the family, had a residency hearing with the family. And really, where this came to light was when the parent filed a grandparent affidavit in juvenile court. Juvenile court ruled that that affidavit was void and said specifically that the children resided outside of our district, in Akron.
So acting on that court ruling, we took a look at that and the parent at that point still contended that the residence was in Copley with her father. And so after looking at some conflicting documents, we had some concerns over that and decided to turn that information over to the prosecutor's office.
The bottom line is that this woman committed "fraud", lie for two years until the school district hired an investigator, and uncovered the real facts! Those facts are that this woman lied, and eventually put herself in the situation that she finds herself today. She's both a liar, and a thief! Has, no creditability, and is only attempting to portray herself as being the victim!
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By: stare k on 2/12/2011 4:08PM
Just like the lying NUN & the acid lady . Were they prosecuted ? I think not . It is all right for white's to lie ,OOOOhhh No blacks , they will pay for their lies .Just as I 've sceen so many Rn nurses take things from the hospitial , & sill do .They say oh I just go it that not stealing .
LORD HELP US ALL
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By: Eyitayo Onifade on 2/14/2011 6:46PM
Greg, first you have to realize that people look to the courts for justice. Some people's notions of justice amount to making sure citizens abide by the law. Others believe justice is about rectifying harm. When the system causes rather than rectifies harm, people become dismissive of the law. The judges notion of justice is harmful to the community. It criminalizes a low-risk citizen, breaks up a family, costs society money to incarcerate this woman, etc. There's a problem when our response to a "crime" is more harmful than the original "crime. That's the part you may not comprehend or appreciate.
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By: kesha white on 2/11/2011 3:26PM
I sympathize with the mothers' situation & she really spoke the way they wrote this interview piece, I don't think being a teacher is in her future. Please let it be that she was nervous becuase nothing she said made any sense. all those ums & you know really turned me off.
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By: jeromequigley on 2/11/2011 4:14PM
@kesha, I was thinking the same thing. I know that Alexis has shown her support for KWB but this interview DOES NOT HELP HER CASE!! And the fact that the interviewer and her lawyer always seemed to jump in (but too late if you ask me) to try and clarify what KWB was saying or meaning just makes it worse. Here is my major problem with this...besides the fact that she just continued to stick to her lie right up to and through out the trial. Was that she continues to show that she had a place to live w/her father if she wanted. I understand her wanting her independence but the fact that she was utilizing subsidized assistance shows that she did not have the means to support herself at this time. Now the worse part is if anyone has used or knows some one who has used subsidized housing knows that when you apply you are normally placed on a waiting list. So while she continues to say she had "TWO PLACES TO STAY" there was some single parent or couple with kids that was on that waiting list living in a shelter, with friends, in their car or on the streets!! That is the part that really churns my stomach. Everyone wants to say "oh she was just ripping off the school and the peepz of that community" but what she did hurt a lot of peepz that needed some REAL HELP!! The free lunch program she got for her kids, that money came out of some other kids mouth that may depend on that meal as their only good meal for the day! See what I mean, her actions has more of an effect on others than peepz seem to realize!! And yes that interview is making me Really question her own skills as a Lic. Teacher(yes I know she is just an assistant now but is set to graduate soon, Too soon). She seemed more of trying to not back herself into a corner with her story!! I don't like what she did one bit and peepz need to realize what a Terrible example she is setting for others!! Thats my 2 cents.
@alexis: the support line was not a dig at you. I was simply stating you have shown support for her. So peepz don't get it twisted!!
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By: Alexis Stodghill on 2/11/2011 4:24PM
I had not thought of it that way.
I think it really supports her case, even if she is nervous in the interview, that they tried to make the grandfather a "parent" legally, and when that did not work out, she took the kids out of school.
I know of many cases in which, until you get a judge's ruling, people keep doing the thing that is in dispute. That is part of the reason you go to court -- so that you don't have to "stop" the disputed action immediately.
If she had kept her kids in the school past the time that her case was not ruled in her favor, it would have been a very different matter. I think the fact that she did that actually shows integrity.
I do understand what you mean about the housing. I wonder if she and her father have issues, making it hard for her to live there. That is possible.
Thanks for clarifying that Jerome. I appreciate it.
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By: Greg on 2/11/2011 6:59PM
Shows integrity? I don't think so!
Jailhouse phone calls are released
Akron woman in Copley schools case talks with dad about saga becoming book, movie
By Ed Meyer
Beacon Journal staff writer
Published on Friday, Feb 11, 2011
(Listen to portions of the dozens of phone calls below)
The Summit County Prosecutor's Office has released hours of recorded jailhouse phone conversations between KelleyWilliams-Bolar and her family after she was sentenced last month in the Copley-Fairlawn school residency case.
The calls — 37 covering nearly nine hours of recordings on a CD — were obtained by the Akron Beacon Journal Thursday afternoon following a public records request.
In one of the calls, Williams-Bolar and her father, Edward Williams, talk about their saga becoming a movie or a book.
Williams-Bolar says in the call that jail corrections officers were even joking with her about which actors would play the parts.
"You should play your part and I'll be me in the movie," her father replies.
He prefaces his remarks by telling his daughter that she is going to make "more money
than you ever made at school or in your life — a movie or a book!"
In other calls, they also discuss the Rev. Al Sharpton becoming involved in the case, as well as overtures from Oprah Winfrey and the Good Morning America show. Sharpton has announced that he plans to travel to Akron next week to discuss the case.
Williams-Bolar, 40, spent nine days in jail last month after a Summit County jury convicted her of two felony counts of tampering with records to keep her two children enrolled in Copley-Fairlawn schools.
She also was given two years of probation and 80 hours of community service.
The case has received international publicity on Internet blogs, Facebook and major network TV and radio shows.
Williams-Bolar, a single mother who is a teaching assistant at Buchtel High School, testified at her trial that she wanted her two girls to go to Copley-Fairlawn schools so they would not be alone at her Akron home while she was at work.
Her attorney told the jury that her home had been vandalized and broken into three times. And she had to call police more than a dozen times, he said.
Williams-Bolar said before the trial that "safety issues" at her subsidized housing on Hartford Avenue were her primary concern.
She also raised that issue in the recorded jailhouse calls, telling a family friend at one point: "If there's anything I have to say, it would be from the perspective that I'm a family provider. I provide for my family as much as I can."
The man tells Williams-Bolar to "keep your head up." I know it's easy for somebody else to say, because they ain't going through what you're going through."
In one of her first few calls from the jail, on Jan. 18, the day she was sentenced, Willliams-Bolar talked briefly to her two girls, crying, and assuring them that she would be home soon.
Mary Ann Kovach, chief legal counsel for Prosecutor Sherri Bevan Walsh, stated in a letter to the newspaper that the agency did not release all of Williams-Bolar's calls.
"We are holding some jail calls because of their potential use at the trial of Edward Williams," Kovach said in the letter.
In charges unrelated to the school residency case, Edward Williams, (her father) 64, faces one count of grand theft and one count of tampering with records over allegations of fraud to obtain various benefits from county and state agencies.
Common Pleas Judge Patricia Cosgrove has scheduled an April 19 trial on those charges.
The grand theft indictment of Edward Williams contains allegations that he "knowingly obtained" $36,023.87 from the Ohio Department of Human Services and the Department of Job and Family Services "by deception.", and also with the knowledge of his daughter.
All phone calls made by Summit County Jail inmates are recorded and subject to Ohio public records laws. Inmates and the people they call are informed that the conversations are being recorded.
AUDIO
Williams-Bolar makes her first call from jail
Williams-Bolar talks with her father about her story becoming a movie
More discussion of the story becoming a movie and "holding out" for more money
Williams-Bolar describes life in jail, including witnessing a fight
Williams-Bolar tells her mother, "Who knows, I might get me an NBA player. I'm letting everybody in the world know I'm single."
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By: Eric on 2/11/2011 10:23PM
Wow! The more this lady runs her mouth, the more she looks just like the typical wantna be get over "ghetto queen"! Have to agree with one of the previous posters about the way she talks, she certainly doesn't sounds like she needs to be anyone's teacher! Looks like both her father, and herself are both a con team! He's due to go to trial too, and for what? you got it FRAUD. Looks like the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree...does it? ..lol...lol She's really all about getting paid! Read it for yourself, this woman is pathetic, habitual liar, and a thief! And, some people have the nerve to try to compare her to Rosa Parks? they must be on drugs, or something! Looks like she's been caught again!..lol I'm sure that the Governor will not grant her a pardon...no way in hell! Simply just based on the evidence! This woman is a real piece of work!
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By: Mz Bowie on 2/12/2011 8:12AM
Wow im at a loss for word's, it's funny how they wanna charge us for that but the truth is we are all soppose to be free right? Where is this woman's freedom at, but they can treat us and our kids wrong right, the schools get paid for every child that enters that door so where's that money at, i think they were picking on this family like they do alot of us, right now im going thru a racial issue with my sons school as we speak! I pray this mother and family gets 10x fold that is owed to her and her family.
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By: Greg on 2/12/2011 9:17AM
You, completely missed the point! And, sadly the real facts, and the truths as well about this case! Either you can't read, or you have some serious issues with reading comprehension! Stop defending criminality, and it's behavior.
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